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WoW Forever Rogue talent calculator

The real Forever trees: Assassination, Combat, Subtlety. Click to spend points, then copy a link that keeps your exact order. 5 talents are new compared with Classic Era and marked NEW.

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Click or tap a talent to add a point. Right-click, Shift-click or use the − button below to take one back.

Pick a talent to read what each rank does. Tooltips come from the Forever client's own data files.

Starter templates

Written by us from the Forever talent data. A starting point to tweak, not tested raid meta.

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Level-by-level order (0 points)

The order you click is the order you level in. It is saved in the share link too.

What's different about Rogue talents in WoW Forever?

5 Rogue talents are new in Forever: Coup de Grace, Efficient Strikes, Hack and Slash, Hack and Slash, Hack and Slash. The rest keep their Classic names, but always check tooltips for changed numbers.

Talent points work as in Classic: one point per level from 10 to 60, 51 in total, five points per tier to unlock the next one. Read the Rogue class guide for roles, races and leveling tips. datawago.tools client tables (build 1.60.1.70790)officialForever development notes (Nov 2)
  • Assassination: 15 talents, capstone Vigor
  • Combat: 19 talents, capstone Adrenaline Rush
  • Subtlety: 17 talents, capstone Premeditation

New in Forever

New Rogue talents and what they do at max rank

TalentTreeTierMax rank effect
Coup de GraceAssassination1Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 60%, and the damage and storage rate of your Death Mark ability by 60%.
Efficient StrikesCombat1Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike and Hemorrhage abilities by 10.
Hack and SlashCombat4Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Daggers and Fist Weapons by 25%.
Hack and SlashCombat5Your attacks with Maces ignore up to 75% of your target's armor.
Hack and SlashCombat5Gives your melee weapon attacks a benefit depending on the weapon. |CFFFFFFFFAxe/Sword:|R Your successful melee attacks have a 25% chance to trigger an extra attack on the target. |CFFFFFFFFDagger/Fist:|R Increases your critical strike chance by 25%. |CFFFFFFFFMace:|R Your attacks ignore 75% of your target's armor.

Templates

Rogue starter builds

TemplateForWhat it does
CombatLevelingHack and Slash for your weapon type, Blade Flurry and Adrenaline Rush; Assassination for Relentless Strikes and Lethality.
Seal Fate daggersDungeons & raidsCold Blood and Seal Fate for burst, with Combat's Improved Backstab and Precision.

Load any of these from the calculator above, then adjust. They are our own starting points, not tested raid meta.

FAQ

Is this the real WoW Forever Rogue talent tree?+

Yes. The trees are read from the Forever game client's own data tables (build 1.60.1.70790), so names, ranks, tiers and prerequisites match what you see in game. We update them when a new build changes talents.

What changed for Rogue talents compared with Classic Era?+

By name, Assassination gains Coup de Grace and loses Improved Eviscerate; Combat gains Efficient Strikes, Hack and Slash, Hack and Slash, Hack and Slash and loses Dagger Specialization, Mace Specialization, Improved Sinister Strike, Sword Specialization. Numbers inside unchanged talents can differ too, so read the tooltip before copying an old build.

What are the Rogue 31-point talents?+

Assassination: Vigor. Combat: Adrenaline Rush. Subtlety: Premeditation. Each needs 30 points spent in its tree, which means at least level 39.

How do I share my build?+

Press Copy link. The link keeps both the ranks and the order you clicked, so whoever opens it sees the same build and the same level-by-level order. Copy for Discord gives a short text summary with the link.

Can I import a build from another calculator?+

Paste the other site's link or its rank string (for example 2300-05) into Import. Most classic calculators use the same rank-string shape, so it usually works; anything the Forever rules don't allow is dropped.

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